[Actiwisdom] First details about the exchange

Do Jun 13 01:25:17 CEST 2013

Hey,

Ich bin etwas unsicher, ob ich in meinem Kopf blöde Altersdiskriminierung mit 
mir herumtrage oder meine Gedanken berechtigt sind oder möglicherweise eine 
Mischung... Naja, ich schreib die Mail jetzt einfach um euch an dem in meinem 
Kopf teilhaben zu lassen.

Die Leute sind alle zwischen 20 und 25. Mir erscheint das sehr jung 
(zugegeben, ich werde alt). Ich finde das nicht schlimm, aber ich glaube das 
es Begegnung auf Augenhöhe erschweren könnte. Bei der 93 geborenen Person 
würde mich daher auch besonders interessieren, welche Erfahrungen sie hat. Und 
wie gesagt: Ich bin mir bewusst, dass das möglicherweise unfair von mir ist, 
da so skeptisch zu sein.

Ansonsten würd ich auch einfach sagen "passt schon", weil ich ja eigentlich 
nix über die Leute weiß.

Liebe Grüße,
Hanna

PS: Pay könnte sich vorstellen zum Teil dabei zu sein, will abe an den 
Wochenenden auf jeden Fall zuhause sein, könnte also immer nur werktags und 
würde dann halt hin- und hertrampen, hätte aber Lust drauf

Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013, 00:16:07 schrieb Ju He:
> ja, ich weiss jetzt auch nicht so recht was davon halten... aber also auf
> casting-auswahl-gedöns hab ich auf jeden fall gar kein bock! also von dem
> her find ich. die namen sagen mir jetzt spontan nix. was wir glaub ich mal
> als "bedingung hatten war zwei weiblich und zwei männlich sozialisierte
> menschen einzuladen. an dem würd ich gerne festhalten. ansonsten seh ich
> nicht wie wir da jetzt von hier aus das beurteilen wollen.
> 
> grüssle
> 
> Am 13.06.2013 um 00:09 schrieb barbara at derknut.org:
> > ich verstehe nicht, was wir entscheiden sollen. Es gibt 4 Namen und das
> > wollten wir doch. Wangui schreibt, dass sie quasi nur den ersten
> > Studenten ausgesucht hat und alles weitere in dessen Hände gelegt hat,
> > davon können wir halten was wir wollen, wir werdens nicht ändern.
> > Interessieren würde mich noch, ob die jetzt alle von einer Uni sind oder
> > von verschiedenen, aber eigentlich ist das auch egal.
> > 
> > Soweit meine schnelle Meinung. Barbara
> > 
> > Am 12.06.2013 20:43, schrieb Sara Zavaree:
> >> Hello again,
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the quick Response and the List. It's great that Things are
> >> moving forward!  Very happy about that. Could you ask the participants
> >> to write each an email answering the following questions?
> >> 
> >> 1. Personal backround
> >> 2. Political Background, i.e. Positions, experience in activism,
> >> Projekts that have been accomplished and so on 3. Motivation to
> >> participate in the Exchange project
> >> 4. Phone Number
> >> 5. Passport available?
> >> 
> >> Send my greetings ti the team
> >> Cheers!
> >> 
> >> Sara Zavaree
> >> 
> >> Bonnerstr. 13
> >> 50677 Köln
> >> 
> >> 0221-16820569
> >> 015776813912
> >> 
> >> Am 12.06.2013 um 18:47 schrieb Zack <kinzak.kinuthia at gmail.com>:
> >>> 1.Zacharia Kinuthia Mugure
> >>> 
> >>>  Date of birth:10/7/1988
> >>>  
> >>>   Sex:Male
> >>>   
> >>>    District of birth:Maragua
> >>>    
> >>>     Place of Issue:Kigumo
> >>> 
> >>> 2.Mercy Nyaguthii Maina
> >>> 
> >>>   Date of birth:18/7/1993
> >>>   
> >>>    District of birth:Nyeri
> >>>    
> >>>     Division of birth:Mathira
> >>> 
> >>> 3.Halake Guyo Rendilicha
> >>> 
> >>>   Date of birth:00/00/1989
> >>>   District of birth:Moyale
> >>>   
> >>>    Place of issue:Central
> >>> 
> >>> 4.Anzai Grace Kiti
> >>> 
> >>>  Date of birth:14/2/1989
> >>>  District of birth:Mombasa
> >>>  
> >>>   Passport number:A1932871
> >>>   
> >>>    Exp date:02/10/2022.
> >>> 
> >>> The civil society activism in Kenya have gone done recently due to
> >>> expansive democratic space as well as the student activism.The state
> >>> is mildly resistant on the activists courtesy of the ruthless human
> >>> rights body....the media is the most indepedent in Africa having gone
> >>> through a very remorseful epoch in history recently......i hope we
> >>> will continue talking more over this matters.....cheers n good evening
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my LG Mobile
> >>> 
> >>> Sara Zavaree <sarazava at gmx.net> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Kinuthia,
> >>>> 
> >>>> sorry that I didn't pick up the phone yesterday, but the team didn't
> >>>> meet yesterday, as initially planed, so there were no ne information
> >>>> to share.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Let me answer some of your questions:
> >>>> 
> >>>> the costs on flight, accomodation and food will be all on us. What we
> >>>> mean with low budget, is not to expect to much luxery ;)
> >>>> 
> >>>> The programme so far is mostly concentrated on political activism of
> >>>> the radical left in germany. But as soon the the team is complete and
> >>>> the visa stuff is on its way we'll send you a detailed programme, so
> >>>> that we also can include events and meetings that are of interest for
> >>>> you.
> >>>> 
> >>>> We would be very interested to hear about the following things from
> >>>> you: - political activism and development of civil society in kenya -
> >>>> means of protest and resistance
> >>>> - student movement
> >>>> - independent media
> >>>> - ...
> >>>> 
> >>>> of course we don't expect you to have a ready presentation on all
> >>>> topics ;) We can talk about this more later.
> >>>> 
> >>>> But most important of all: have you heard from Wangui recently? Could
> >>>> you contact her as well. We really really need the names and dates of
> >>>> the participants, otherwise we won't get the visas in time.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Have you allready applied for your passport? You should do that
> >>>> imidiatly and maybe also inquire how long it might take, and if it ist
> >>>> possible to get a provisional one.
> >>>> 
> >>>> So long, hope to hear from you soon,
> >>>> Sara
> >>>> 
> >>>> Am 10.06.2013 11:21, schrieb barbara at derknut.org:
> >>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >>>>> Betreff: Re: First details about the exchange
> >>>>> Datum: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:32:04 +0300
> >>>>> Von: Zack <kinzak.kinuthia at gmail.com>
> >>>>> An: barbara at derknut.org
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Greetings Sara Hanna Johanna Kathy Jannik and Sara,i have read
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> the details n here are the reactions:
> >>>>>> what exactly do u expect wen u say workshops n presentations from
> >>>>>> the Kenyan activists? We would also like to get some exposure about
> >>>>>> Germans' social,religious and cultural orientations. About sharing
> >>>>>> one room,relax we are comfortable.
> >>>>>> Wil we meet the low cost of food or is it on u?
> >>>>>> Dont trouble yourselves on pocket money,we wil be fine because we
> >>>>>> want to to learn more instead. Who wil meet the cost of flight?
> >>>>>> We would also like to share the political system n the growth of
> >>>>>> democracy in Kenya as well as the religious,cultural and social
> >>>>>> background in Kenya.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>   I hope i have communicated as required n that u wil get more than u
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> need from this e mail.Cheers Sara and team
> >>>>> Sent from my LG Mobile
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> barbara at derknut.org wrote:
> >>>>>> Dear Kinuthia,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> was great to finally get in touch with you. Here is the promised
> >>>>>> Mail. First we'd like to present you the content of the project and
> >>>>>> then we wish to discuss our divergent expectations towards the
> >>>>>> organisational frame
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> content:
> >>>>>> objective: exchange of activists from kenya and germany.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -introduction to the political situation and institutions in
> >>>>>> germany, parlamentary and civil society
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -meeting with diverse forms of political activism, e.g.
> >>>>>> indepent media
> >>>>>> student movement
> >>>>>> violence and judical repression against activsts and resistance to
> >>>>>> that anti-nuclear-energy movement
> >>>>>> protest against coal mining
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -workshops on different forms of skills for political actions, e.g.
> >>>>>> communication and consenus
> >>>>>> various forms of demonstrations
> >>>>>> blockades (sitting blockades, material blockades...)
> >>>>>> affinity groups
> >>>>>> basic first aid for demonstrations
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -workshops and presentations from the kenyan activists
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Do you have any questions on that? Is there any more content you are
> >>>>>> interested in or any more workshops that you would like to attend?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> organisational frame:
> >>>>>> we've been meeting some difficulties in getting the funds that are
> >>>>>> sufficiant for such a project. But never the less we are very
> >>>>>> motivated and we think it is very important to have such an
> >>>>>> exchange so we came up with the idea to lower our expectians and
> >>>>>> have a low budget plan. In detail this means the following things:
> >>>>>> the team will sleep in one room, but with space enough for
> >>>>>> everyone. We will try to keep the costs for food as low as possible
> >>>>>> and our main base will be Berlin with vistit in one or two other
> >>>>>> places, so there will be no tour. Probably we won't be able to
> >>>>>> provide you with pocket money. Might there be any problems occuring
> >>>>>> from this situation?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Please write a few lines on you're general expectations towards the
> >>>>>> project. In addition to that we would like to know roughly what kind
> >>>>>> of topics you coul give presentations or what kind of experiences
> >>>>>> from Kenya would you like to share with us.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> By the way, it will be an interesting time for you to come, because
> >>>>>> in September there is the general election in germany.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Barbara, Hanna, Johanna, Kathy, Jannik and Sara
> >>>>> 
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