Hello again,
Thanks for the quick Response and the List. It's great that Things are moving forward! Very happy about that. Could you ask the participants to write each an email answering the following questions?
1. Personal backround 2. Political Background, i.e. Positions, experience in activism, Projekts that have been accomplished and so on 3. Motivation to participate in the Exchange project 4. Phone Number 5. Passport available?
Send my greetings ti the team Cheers!
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 12.06.2013 um 18:47 schrieb Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com:
1.Zacharia Kinuthia Mugure Date of birth:10/7/1988 Sex:Male District of birth:Maragua Place of Issue:Kigumo 2.Mercy Nyaguthii Maina Date of birth:18/7/1993 District of birth:Nyeri Division of birth:Mathira 3.Halake Guyo Rendilicha Date of birth:00/00/1989 District of birth:Moyale Place of issue:Central 4.Anzai Grace Kiti Date of birth:14/2/1989 District of birth:Mombasa Passport number:A1932871 Exp date:02/10/2022. The civil society activism in Kenya have gone done recently due to expansive democratic space as well as the student activism.The state is mildly resistant on the activists courtesy of the ruthless human rights body....the media is the most indepedent in Africa having gone through a very remorseful epoch in history recently......i hope we will continue talking more over this matters.....cheers n good evening
Sent from my LG Mobile
Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net wrote:
Hi Kinuthia,
sorry that I didn't pick up the phone yesterday, but the team didn't meet yesterday, as initially planed, so there were no ne information to share.
Let me answer some of your questions:
the costs on flight, accomodation and food will be all on us. What we mean with low budget, is not to expect to much luxery ;)
The programme so far is mostly concentrated on political activism of the radical left in germany. But as soon the the team is complete and the visa stuff is on its way we'll send you a detailed programme, so that we also can include events and meetings that are of interest for you.
We would be very interested to hear about the following things from you:
- political activism and development of civil society in kenya
- means of protest and resistance
- student movement
- independent media
- ...
of course we don't expect you to have a ready presentation on all topics ;) We can talk about this more later.
But most important of all: have you heard from Wangui recently? Could you contact her as well. We really really need the names and dates of the participants, otherwise we won't get the visas in time.
Have you allready applied for your passport? You should do that imidiatly and maybe also inquire how long it might take, and if it ist possible to get a provisional one.
So long, hope to hear from you soon, Sara
Am 10.06.2013 11:21, schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: First details about the exchange Datum: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:32:04 +0300 Von: Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com An: barbara@derknut.org
Greetings Sara Hanna Johanna Kathy Jannik and Sara,i have read the details n here are the reactions:
what exactly do u expect wen u say workshops n presentations from the Kenyan activists? We would also like to get some exposure about Germans' social,religious and cultural orientations. About sharing one room,relax we are comfortable. Wil we meet the low cost of food or is it on u? Dont trouble yourselves on pocket money,we wil be fine because we want to to learn more instead. Who wil meet the cost of flight? We would also like to share the political system n the growth of democracy in Kenya as well as the religious,cultural and social background in Kenya.
I hope i have communicated as required n that u wil get more than u need from this e mail.Cheers Sara and team Sent from my LG Mobile
barbara@derknut.org wrote:
Dear Kinuthia,
was great to finally get in touch with you. Here is the promised Mail. First we'd like to present you the content of the project and then we wish to discuss our divergent expectations towards the organisational frame
content: objective: exchange of activists from kenya and germany.
-introduction to the political situation and institutions in germany, parlamentary and civil society
-meeting with diverse forms of political activism, e.g. indepent media student movement violence and judical repression against activsts and resistance to that anti-nuclear-energy movement protest against coal mining
-workshops on different forms of skills for political actions, e.g. communication and consenus various forms of demonstrations blockades (sitting blockades, material blockades...) affinity groups basic first aid for demonstrations
-workshops and presentations from the kenyan activists
Do you have any questions on that? Is there any more content you are interested in or any more workshops that you would like to attend?
organisational frame: we've been meeting some difficulties in getting the funds that are sufficiant for such a project. But never the less we are very motivated and we think it is very important to have such an exchange so we came up with the idea to lower our expectians and have a low budget plan. In detail this means the following things: the team will sleep in one room, but with space enough for everyone. We will try to keep the costs for food as low as possible and our main base will be Berlin with vistit in one or two other places, so there will be no tour. Probably we won't be able to provide you with pocket money. Might there be any problems occuring from this situation?
Please write a few lines on you're general expectations towards the project. In addition to that we would like to know roughly what kind of topics you coul give presentations or what kind of experiences from Kenya would you like to share with us.
By the way, it will be an interesting time for you to come, because in September there is the general election in germany.
Cheers, Barbara, Hanna, Johanna, Kathy, Jannik and Sara
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ich verstehe nicht, was wir entscheiden sollen. Es gibt 4 Namen und das wollten wir doch. Wangui schreibt, dass sie quasi nur den ersten Studenten ausgesucht hat und alles weitere in dessen Hände gelegt hat, davon können wir halten was wir wollen, wir werdens nicht ändern. Interessieren würde mich noch, ob die jetzt alle von einer Uni sind oder von verschiedenen, aber eigentlich ist das auch egal.
Soweit meine schnelle Meinung. Barbara
Am 12.06.2013 20:43, schrieb Sara Zavaree:
Hello again,
Thanks for the quick Response and the List. It's great that Things are moving forward! Very happy about that. Could you ask the participants to write each an email answering the following questions?
- Personal backround
- Political Background, i.e. Positions, experience in activism, Projekts that have been accomplished and so on
- Motivation to participate in the Exchange project
- Phone Number
- Passport available?
Send my greetings ti the team Cheers!
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 12.06.2013 um 18:47 schrieb Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com:
1.Zacharia Kinuthia Mugure Date of birth:10/7/1988 Sex:Male District of birth:Maragua Place of Issue:Kigumo 2.Mercy Nyaguthii Maina Date of birth:18/7/1993 District of birth:Nyeri Division of birth:Mathira 3.Halake Guyo Rendilicha Date of birth:00/00/1989 District of birth:Moyale Place of issue:Central 4.Anzai Grace Kiti Date of birth:14/2/1989 District of birth:Mombasa Passport number:A1932871 Exp date:02/10/2022. The civil society activism in Kenya have gone done recently due to expansive democratic space as well as the student activism.The state is mildly resistant on the activists courtesy of the ruthless human rights body....the media is the most indepedent in Africa having gone through a very remorseful epoch in history recently......i hope we will continue talking more over this matters.....cheers n good evening
Sent from my LG Mobile
Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net wrote:
Hi Kinuthia,
sorry that I didn't pick up the phone yesterday, but the team didn't meet yesterday, as initially planed, so there were no ne information to share.
Let me answer some of your questions:
the costs on flight, accomodation and food will be all on us. What we mean with low budget, is not to expect to much luxery ;)
The programme so far is mostly concentrated on political activism of the radical left in germany. But as soon the the team is complete and the visa stuff is on its way we'll send you a detailed programme, so that we also can include events and meetings that are of interest for you.
We would be very interested to hear about the following things from you:
- political activism and development of civil society in kenya
- means of protest and resistance
- student movement
- independent media
- ...
of course we don't expect you to have a ready presentation on all topics ;) We can talk about this more later.
But most important of all: have you heard from Wangui recently? Could you contact her as well. We really really need the names and dates of the participants, otherwise we won't get the visas in time.
Have you allready applied for your passport? You should do that imidiatly and maybe also inquire how long it might take, and if it ist possible to get a provisional one.
So long, hope to hear from you soon, Sara
Am 10.06.2013 11:21, schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: First details about the exchange Datum: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:32:04 +0300 Von: Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com An: barbara@derknut.org
Greetings Sara Hanna Johanna Kathy Jannik and Sara,i have read the details n here are the reactions:
what exactly do u expect wen u say workshops n presentations from the Kenyan activists? We would also like to get some exposure about Germans' social,religious and cultural orientations. About sharing one room,relax we are comfortable. Wil we meet the low cost of food or is it on u? Dont trouble yourselves on pocket money,we wil be fine because we want to to learn more instead. Who wil meet the cost of flight? We would also like to share the political system n the growth of democracy in Kenya as well as the religious,cultural and social background in Kenya.
I hope i have communicated as required n that u wil get more than u need from this e mail.Cheers Sara and team Sent from my LG Mobile
barbara@derknut.org wrote:
Dear Kinuthia,
was great to finally get in touch with you. Here is the promised Mail. First we'd like to present you the content of the project and then we wish to discuss our divergent expectations towards the organisational frame
content: objective: exchange of activists from kenya and germany.
-introduction to the political situation and institutions in germany, parlamentary and civil society
-meeting with diverse forms of political activism, e.g. indepent media student movement violence and judical repression against activsts and resistance to that anti-nuclear-energy movement protest against coal mining
-workshops on different forms of skills for political actions, e.g. communication and consenus various forms of demonstrations blockades (sitting blockades, material blockades...) affinity groups basic first aid for demonstrations
-workshops and presentations from the kenyan activists
Do you have any questions on that? Is there any more content you are interested in or any more workshops that you would like to attend?
organisational frame: we've been meeting some difficulties in getting the funds that are sufficiant for such a project. But never the less we are very motivated and we think it is very important to have such an exchange so we came up with the idea to lower our expectians and have a low budget plan. In detail this means the following things: the team will sleep in one room, but with space enough for everyone. We will try to keep the costs for food as low as possible and our main base will be Berlin with vistit in one or two other places, so there will be no tour. Probably we won't be able to provide you with pocket money. Might there be any problems occuring from this situation?
Please write a few lines on you're general expectations towards the project. In addition to that we would like to know roughly what kind of topics you coul give presentations or what kind of experiences from Kenya would you like to share with us.
By the way, it will be an interesting time for you to come, because in September there is the general election in germany.
Cheers, Barbara, Hanna, Johanna, Kathy, Jannik and Sara
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ja, ich weiss jetzt auch nicht so recht was davon halten... aber also auf casting-auswahl-gedöns hab ich auf jeden fall gar kein bock! also von dem her find ich. die namen sagen mir jetzt spontan nix. was wir glaub ich mal als "bedingung hatten war zwei weiblich und zwei männlich sozialisierte menschen einzuladen. an dem würd ich gerne festhalten. ansonsten seh ich nicht wie wir da jetzt von hier aus das beurteilen wollen.
grüssle Am 13.06.2013 um 00:09 schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
ich verstehe nicht, was wir entscheiden sollen. Es gibt 4 Namen und das wollten wir doch. Wangui schreibt, dass sie quasi nur den ersten Studenten ausgesucht hat und alles weitere in dessen Hände gelegt hat, davon können wir halten was wir wollen, wir werdens nicht ändern. Interessieren würde mich noch, ob die jetzt alle von einer Uni sind oder von verschiedenen, aber eigentlich ist das auch egal.
Soweit meine schnelle Meinung. Barbara
Am 12.06.2013 20:43, schrieb Sara Zavaree:
Hello again,
Thanks for the quick Response and the List. It's great that Things are moving forward! Very happy about that. Could you ask the participants to write each an email answering the following questions?
- Personal backround
- Political Background, i.e. Positions, experience in activism, Projekts that have been accomplished and so on
- Motivation to participate in the Exchange project
- Phone Number
- Passport available?
Send my greetings ti the team Cheers!
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 12.06.2013 um 18:47 schrieb Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com:
1.Zacharia Kinuthia Mugure Date of birth:10/7/1988 Sex:Male District of birth:Maragua Place of Issue:Kigumo 2.Mercy Nyaguthii Maina Date of birth:18/7/1993 District of birth:Nyeri Division of birth:Mathira 3.Halake Guyo Rendilicha Date of birth:00/00/1989 District of birth:Moyale Place of issue:Central 4.Anzai Grace Kiti Date of birth:14/2/1989 District of birth:Mombasa Passport number:A1932871 Exp date:02/10/2022. The civil society activism in Kenya have gone done recently due to expansive democratic space as well as the student activism.The state is mildly resistant on the activists courtesy of the ruthless human rights body....the media is the most indepedent in Africa having gone through a very remorseful epoch in history recently......i hope we will continue talking more over this matters.....cheers n good evening
Sent from my LG Mobile
Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net wrote:
Hi Kinuthia,
sorry that I didn't pick up the phone yesterday, but the team didn't meet yesterday, as initially planed, so there were no ne information to share.
Let me answer some of your questions:
the costs on flight, accomodation and food will be all on us. What we mean with low budget, is not to expect to much luxery ;)
The programme so far is mostly concentrated on political activism of the radical left in germany. But as soon the the team is complete and the visa stuff is on its way we'll send you a detailed programme, so that we also can include events and meetings that are of interest for you.
We would be very interested to hear about the following things from you:
- political activism and development of civil society in kenya
- means of protest and resistance
- student movement
- independent media
- ...
of course we don't expect you to have a ready presentation on all topics ;) We can talk about this more later.
But most important of all: have you heard from Wangui recently? Could you contact her as well. We really really need the names and dates of the participants, otherwise we won't get the visas in time.
Have you allready applied for your passport? You should do that imidiatly and maybe also inquire how long it might take, and if it ist possible to get a provisional one.
So long, hope to hear from you soon, Sara
Am 10.06.2013 11:21, schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: First details about the exchange Datum: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:32:04 +0300 Von: Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com An: barbara@derknut.org
Greetings Sara Hanna Johanna Kathy Jannik and Sara,i have read the details n here are the reactions:
what exactly do u expect wen u say workshops n presentations from the Kenyan activists? We would also like to get some exposure about Germans' social,religious and cultural orientations. About sharing one room,relax we are comfortable. Wil we meet the low cost of food or is it on u? Dont trouble yourselves on pocket money,we wil be fine because we want to to learn more instead. Who wil meet the cost of flight? We would also like to share the political system n the growth of democracy in Kenya as well as the religious,cultural and social background in Kenya.
I hope i have communicated as required n that u wil get more than u need from this e mail.Cheers Sara and team Sent from my LG Mobile
barbara@derknut.org wrote:
Dear Kinuthia,
was great to finally get in touch with you. Here is the promised Mail. First we'd like to present you the content of the project and then we wish to discuss our divergent expectations towards the organisational frame
content: objective: exchange of activists from kenya and germany.
-introduction to the political situation and institutions in germany, parlamentary and civil society
-meeting with diverse forms of political activism, e.g. indepent media student movement violence and judical repression against activsts and resistance to that anti-nuclear-energy movement protest against coal mining
-workshops on different forms of skills for political actions, e.g. communication and consenus various forms of demonstrations blockades (sitting blockades, material blockades...) affinity groups basic first aid for demonstrations
-workshops and presentations from the kenyan activists
Do you have any questions on that? Is there any more content you are interested in or any more workshops that you would like to attend?
organisational frame: we've been meeting some difficulties in getting the funds that are sufficiant for such a project. But never the less we are very motivated and we think it is very important to have such an exchange so we came up with the idea to lower our expectians and have a low budget plan. In detail this means the following things: the team will sleep in one room, but with space enough for everyone. We will try to keep the costs for food as low as possible and our main base will be Berlin with vistit in one or two other places, so there will be no tour. Probably we won't be able to provide you with pocket money. Might there be any problems occuring from this situation?
Please write a few lines on you're general expectations towards the project. In addition to that we would like to know roughly what kind of topics you coul give presentations or what kind of experiences from Kenya would you like to share with us.
By the way, it will be an interesting time for you to come, because in September there is the general election in germany.
Cheers, Barbara, Hanna, Johanna, Kathy, Jannik and Sara
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Hey,
Ich bin etwas unsicher, ob ich in meinem Kopf blöde Altersdiskriminierung mit mir herumtrage oder meine Gedanken berechtigt sind oder möglicherweise eine Mischung... Naja, ich schreib die Mail jetzt einfach um euch an dem in meinem Kopf teilhaben zu lassen.
Die Leute sind alle zwischen 20 und 25. Mir erscheint das sehr jung (zugegeben, ich werde alt). Ich finde das nicht schlimm, aber ich glaube das es Begegnung auf Augenhöhe erschweren könnte. Bei der 93 geborenen Person würde mich daher auch besonders interessieren, welche Erfahrungen sie hat. Und wie gesagt: Ich bin mir bewusst, dass das möglicherweise unfair von mir ist, da so skeptisch zu sein.
Ansonsten würd ich auch einfach sagen "passt schon", weil ich ja eigentlich nix über die Leute weiß.
Liebe Grüße, Hanna
PS: Pay könnte sich vorstellen zum Teil dabei zu sein, will abe an den Wochenenden auf jeden Fall zuhause sein, könnte also immer nur werktags und würde dann halt hin- und hertrampen, hätte aber Lust drauf
Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013, 00:16:07 schrieb Ju He:
ja, ich weiss jetzt auch nicht so recht was davon halten... aber also auf casting-auswahl-gedöns hab ich auf jeden fall gar kein bock! also von dem her find ich. die namen sagen mir jetzt spontan nix. was wir glaub ich mal als "bedingung hatten war zwei weiblich und zwei männlich sozialisierte menschen einzuladen. an dem würd ich gerne festhalten. ansonsten seh ich nicht wie wir da jetzt von hier aus das beurteilen wollen.
grüssle
Am 13.06.2013 um 00:09 schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
ich verstehe nicht, was wir entscheiden sollen. Es gibt 4 Namen und das wollten wir doch. Wangui schreibt, dass sie quasi nur den ersten Studenten ausgesucht hat und alles weitere in dessen Hände gelegt hat, davon können wir halten was wir wollen, wir werdens nicht ändern. Interessieren würde mich noch, ob die jetzt alle von einer Uni sind oder von verschiedenen, aber eigentlich ist das auch egal.
Soweit meine schnelle Meinung. Barbara
Am 12.06.2013 20:43, schrieb Sara Zavaree:
Hello again,
Thanks for the quick Response and the List. It's great that Things are moving forward! Very happy about that. Could you ask the participants to write each an email answering the following questions?
- Personal backround
- Political Background, i.e. Positions, experience in activism,
Projekts that have been accomplished and so on 3. Motivation to participate in the Exchange project 4. Phone Number 5. Passport available?
Send my greetings ti the team Cheers!
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 12.06.2013 um 18:47 schrieb Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com:
1.Zacharia Kinuthia Mugure
Date of birth:10/7/1988
Sex:Male
District of birth:Maragua
Place of Issue:Kigumo2.Mercy Nyaguthii Maina
Date of birth:18/7/1993
District of birth:Nyeri
Division of birth:Mathira3.Halake Guyo Rendilicha
Date of birth:00/00/1989 District of birth:Moyale
Place of issue:Central
4.Anzai Grace Kiti
Date of birth:14/2/1989 District of birth:Mombasa
Passport number:A1932871
Exp date:02/10/2022.
The civil society activism in Kenya have gone done recently due to expansive democratic space as well as the student activism.The state is mildly resistant on the activists courtesy of the ruthless human rights body....the media is the most indepedent in Africa having gone through a very remorseful epoch in history recently......i hope we will continue talking more over this matters.....cheers n good evening
Sent from my LG Mobile
Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net wrote:
Hi Kinuthia,
sorry that I didn't pick up the phone yesterday, but the team didn't meet yesterday, as initially planed, so there were no ne information to share.
Let me answer some of your questions:
the costs on flight, accomodation and food will be all on us. What we mean with low budget, is not to expect to much luxery ;)
The programme so far is mostly concentrated on political activism of the radical left in germany. But as soon the the team is complete and the visa stuff is on its way we'll send you a detailed programme, so that we also can include events and meetings that are of interest for you.
We would be very interested to hear about the following things from you: - political activism and development of civil society in kenya - means of protest and resistance
- student movement
- independent media
- ...
of course we don't expect you to have a ready presentation on all topics ;) We can talk about this more later.
But most important of all: have you heard from Wangui recently? Could you contact her as well. We really really need the names and dates of the participants, otherwise we won't get the visas in time.
Have you allready applied for your passport? You should do that imidiatly and maybe also inquire how long it might take, and if it ist possible to get a provisional one.
So long, hope to hear from you soon, Sara
Am 10.06.2013 11:21, schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: First details about the exchange Datum: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:32:04 +0300 Von: Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com An: barbara@derknut.org
Greetings Sara Hanna Johanna Kathy Jannik and Sara,i have read
the details n here are the reactions: > what exactly do u expect wen u say workshops n presentations from > the Kenyan activists? We would also like to get some exposure about > Germans' social,religious and cultural orientations. About sharing > one room,relax we are comfortable. > Wil we meet the low cost of food or is it on u? > Dont trouble yourselves on pocket money,we wil be fine because we > want to to learn more instead. Who wil meet the cost of flight? > We would also like to share the political system n the growth of > democracy in Kenya as well as the religious,cultural and social > background in Kenya. > I hope i have communicated as required n that u wil get more than u
need from this e mail.Cheers Sara and team Sent from my LG Mobile
barbara@derknut.org wrote: > Dear Kinuthia, > > was great to finally get in touch with you. Here is the promised > Mail. First we'd like to present you the content of the project and > then we wish to discuss our divergent expectations towards the > organisational frame > > content: > objective: exchange of activists from kenya and germany. > > -introduction to the political situation and institutions in > germany, parlamentary and civil society > > -meeting with diverse forms of political activism, e.g. > indepent media > student movement > violence and judical repression against activsts and resistance to > that anti-nuclear-energy movement > protest against coal mining > > -workshops on different forms of skills for political actions, e.g. > communication and consenus > various forms of demonstrations > blockades (sitting blockades, material blockades...) > affinity groups > basic first aid for demonstrations > > -workshops and presentations from the kenyan activists > > Do you have any questions on that? Is there any more content you are > interested in or any more workshops that you would like to attend? > > > organisational frame: > we've been meeting some difficulties in getting the funds that are > sufficiant for such a project. But never the less we are very > motivated and we think it is very important to have such an > exchange so we came up with the idea to lower our expectians and > have a low budget plan. In detail this means the following things: > the team will sleep in one room, but with space enough for > everyone. We will try to keep the costs for food as low as possible > and our main base will be Berlin with vistit in one or two other > places, so there will be no tour. Probably we won't be able to > provide you with pocket money. Might there be any problems occuring > from this situation? > > > Please write a few lines on you're general expectations towards the > project. In addition to that we would like to know roughly what kind > of topics you coul give presentations or what kind of experiences > from Kenya would you like to share with us. > > By the way, it will be an interesting time for you to come, because > in September there is the general election in germany. > > Cheers, > Barbara, Hanna, Johanna, Kathy, Jannik and Sara
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Hey,
Ich seh das ähnlich wie ihr, die sollten uns Namen schicken, und sie haben's gemacht. Wegen dem alter habe ich auch bedenken, andererseits sind StudentInnen nun mal eher jung, und vllt können sich ältere mit kids etc die zeit nicht freischaufeln?
Die Frage ist, wie wir jetzt weitermachen. Wir müssen ja Flüge buchen, Versicherung und bürgschaft klar machen. Wangui schrieb ja von einer "offiziellen" Kommunikation zwischen den teilnehmenden und Jugend in der Welt.
Am besten wäre es direkt nach Flügen zu suchen und schon mal ein schreiben von Jugend in der Welt aufzusetzen. Vllt fragen wir Dorothea, ob sie beim formulieren hilft?
Mein persönliche Wunsch wäre mit jedem einzelnen mal kurz über telefon oder Chat gesprochen zu haben, um mal zu schauen wie verbindlich die Teilnahme ist. ( bei kinuthia hab ich zb das Gefühl das er extrem motiviert ist).
Soweit, s.
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 13.06.2013 um 01:25 schrieb Hanna Poddig hanna@nirgendwo.info:
Hey,
Ich bin etwas unsicher, ob ich in meinem Kopf blöde Altersdiskriminierung mit mir herumtrage oder meine Gedanken berechtigt sind oder möglicherweise eine Mischung... Naja, ich schreib die Mail jetzt einfach um euch an dem in meinem Kopf teilhaben zu lassen.
Die Leute sind alle zwischen 20 und 25. Mir erscheint das sehr jung (zugegeben, ich werde alt). Ich finde das nicht schlimm, aber ich glaube das es Begegnung auf Augenhöhe erschweren könnte. Bei der 93 geborenen Person würde mich daher auch besonders interessieren, welche Erfahrungen sie hat. Und wie gesagt: Ich bin mir bewusst, dass das möglicherweise unfair von mir ist, da so skeptisch zu sein.
Ansonsten würd ich auch einfach sagen "passt schon", weil ich ja eigentlich nix über die Leute weiß.
Liebe Grüße, Hanna
PS: Pay könnte sich vorstellen zum Teil dabei zu sein, will abe an den Wochenenden auf jeden Fall zuhause sein, könnte also immer nur werktags und würde dann halt hin- und hertrampen, hätte aber Lust drauf
Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013, 00:16:07 schrieb Ju He:
ja, ich weiss jetzt auch nicht so recht was davon halten... aber also auf casting-auswahl-gedöns hab ich auf jeden fall gar kein bock! also von dem her find ich. die namen sagen mir jetzt spontan nix. was wir glaub ich mal als "bedingung hatten war zwei weiblich und zwei männlich sozialisierte menschen einzuladen. an dem würd ich gerne festhalten. ansonsten seh ich nicht wie wir da jetzt von hier aus das beurteilen wollen.
grüssle
Am 13.06.2013 um 00:09 schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
ich verstehe nicht, was wir entscheiden sollen. Es gibt 4 Namen und das wollten wir doch. Wangui schreibt, dass sie quasi nur den ersten Studenten ausgesucht hat und alles weitere in dessen Hände gelegt hat, davon können wir halten was wir wollen, wir werdens nicht ändern. Interessieren würde mich noch, ob die jetzt alle von einer Uni sind oder von verschiedenen, aber eigentlich ist das auch egal.
Soweit meine schnelle Meinung. Barbara
Am 12.06.2013 20:43, schrieb Sara Zavaree:
Hello again,
Thanks for the quick Response and the List. It's great that Things are moving forward! Very happy about that. Could you ask the participants to write each an email answering the following questions?
- Personal backround
- Political Background, i.e. Positions, experience in activism,
Projekts that have been accomplished and so on 3. Motivation to participate in the Exchange project 4. Phone Number 5. Passport available?
Send my greetings ti the team Cheers!
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 12.06.2013 um 18:47 schrieb Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com:
1.Zacharia Kinuthia Mugure
Date of birth:10/7/1988
Sex:Male
District of birth:Maragua
Place of Issue:Kigumo
2.Mercy Nyaguthii Maina
Date of birth:18/7/1993
District of birth:Nyeri
Division of birth:Mathira
3.Halake Guyo Rendilicha
Date of birth:00/00/1989 District of birth:Moyale
Place of issue:Central
4.Anzai Grace Kiti
Date of birth:14/2/1989 District of birth:Mombasa
Passport number:A1932871
Exp date:02/10/2022.
The civil society activism in Kenya have gone done recently due to expansive democratic space as well as the student activism.The state is mildly resistant on the activists courtesy of the ruthless human rights body....the media is the most indepedent in Africa having gone through a very remorseful epoch in history recently......i hope we will continue talking more over this matters.....cheers n good evening
Sent from my LG Mobile
Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net wrote:
Hi Kinuthia,
sorry that I didn't pick up the phone yesterday, but the team didn't meet yesterday, as initially planed, so there were no ne information to share.
Let me answer some of your questions:
the costs on flight, accomodation and food will be all on us. What we mean with low budget, is not to expect to much luxery ;)
The programme so far is mostly concentrated on political activism of the radical left in germany. But as soon the the team is complete and the visa stuff is on its way we'll send you a detailed programme, so that we also can include events and meetings that are of interest for you.
We would be very interested to hear about the following things from you: - political activism and development of civil society in kenya - means of protest and resistance
- student movement
- independent media
- ...
of course we don't expect you to have a ready presentation on all topics ;) We can talk about this more later.
But most important of all: have you heard from Wangui recently? Could you contact her as well. We really really need the names and dates of the participants, otherwise we won't get the visas in time.
Have you allready applied for your passport? You should do that imidiatly and maybe also inquire how long it might take, and if it ist possible to get a provisional one.
So long, hope to hear from you soon, Sara
Am 10.06.2013 11:21, schrieb barbara@derknut.org: > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Re: First details about the exchange > Datum: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:32:04 +0300 > Von: Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com > An: barbara@derknut.org > > Greetings Sara Hanna Johanna Kathy Jannik and Sara,i have read > > the details n here are the reactions: >> what exactly do u expect wen u say workshops n presentations from >> the Kenyan activists? We would also like to get some exposure about >> Germans' social,religious and cultural orientations. About sharing >> one room,relax we are comfortable. >> Wil we meet the low cost of food or is it on u? >> Dont trouble yourselves on pocket money,we wil be fine because we >> want to to learn more instead. Who wil meet the cost of flight? >> We would also like to share the political system n the growth of >> democracy in Kenya as well as the religious,cultural and social >> background in Kenya. >> > I hope i have communicated as required n that u wil get more than u > > need from this e mail.Cheers Sara and team > Sent from my LG Mobile > > barbara@derknut.org wrote: >> Dear Kinuthia, >> >> was great to finally get in touch with you. Here is the promised >> Mail. First we'd like to present you the content of the project and >> then we wish to discuss our divergent expectations towards the >> organisational frame >> >> content: >> objective: exchange of activists from kenya and germany. >> >> -introduction to the political situation and institutions in >> germany, parlamentary and civil society >> >> -meeting with diverse forms of political activism, e.g. >> indepent media >> student movement >> violence and judical repression against activsts and resistance to >> that anti-nuclear-energy movement >> protest against coal mining >> >> -workshops on different forms of skills for political actions, e.g. >> communication and consenus >> various forms of demonstrations >> blockades (sitting blockades, material blockades...) >> affinity groups >> basic first aid for demonstrations >> >> -workshops and presentations from the kenyan activists >> >> Do you have any questions on that? Is there any more content you are >> interested in or any more workshops that you would like to attend? >> >> >> organisational frame: >> we've been meeting some difficulties in getting the funds that are >> sufficiant for such a project. But never the less we are very >> motivated and we think it is very important to have such an >> exchange so we came up with the idea to lower our expectians and >> have a low budget plan. In detail this means the following things: >> the team will sleep in one room, but with space enough for >> everyone. We will try to keep the costs for food as low as possible >> and our main base will be Berlin with vistit in one or two other >> places, so there will be no tour. Probably we won't be able to >> provide you with pocket money. Might there be any problems occuring >> from this situation? >> >> >> Please write a few lines on you're general expectations towards the >> project. In addition to that we would like to know roughly what kind >> of topics you coul give presentations or what kind of experiences >> from Kenya would you like to share with us. >> >> By the way, it will be an interesting time for you to come, because >> in September there is the general election in germany. >> >> Cheers, >> Barbara, Hanna, Johanna, Kathy, Jannik and Sara > > _______________________________________________ > Actiwisdom mailing list > Actiwisdom@lists.netzguerilla.net > https://netzguerilla.net/mailman/listinfo/actiwisdom
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mein senf dazu wäre seine wiederholung, deswegen lass ich ihn weg. @sara: würdest du die telefonate auch übernehmen und dann einen kurzen eindruck über die liste schicken?
grüße aus der sonne, kathy
Zitat von Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net:
Hey,
Ich seh das ähnlich wie ihr, die sollten uns Namen schicken, und sie haben's gemacht. Wegen dem alter habe ich auch bedenken, andererseits sind StudentInnen nun mal eher jung, und vllt können sich ältere mit kids etc die zeit nicht freischaufeln?
Die Frage ist, wie wir jetzt weitermachen. Wir müssen ja Flüge buchen, Versicherung und bürgschaft klar machen. Wangui schrieb ja von einer "offiziellen" Kommunikation zwischen den teilnehmenden und Jugend in der Welt.
Am besten wäre es direkt nach Flügen zu suchen und schon mal ein schreiben von Jugend in der Welt aufzusetzen. Vllt fragen wir Dorothea, ob sie beim formulieren hilft?
Mein persönliche Wunsch wäre mit jedem einzelnen mal kurz über telefon oder Chat gesprochen zu haben, um mal zu schauen wie verbindlich die Teilnahme ist. ( bei kinuthia hab ich zb das Gefühl das er extrem motiviert ist).
Soweit, s.
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 13.06.2013 um 01:25 schrieb Hanna Poddig hanna@nirgendwo.info:
Hey,
Ich bin etwas unsicher, ob ich in meinem Kopf blöde Altersdiskriminierung mit mir herumtrage oder meine Gedanken berechtigt sind oder möglicherweise eine Mischung... Naja, ich schreib die Mail jetzt einfach um euch an dem in meinem Kopf teilhaben zu lassen.
Die Leute sind alle zwischen 20 und 25. Mir erscheint das sehr jung (zugegeben, ich werde alt). Ich finde das nicht schlimm, aber ich glaube das es Begegnung auf Augenhöhe erschweren könnte. Bei der 93 geborenen Person würde mich daher auch besonders interessieren, welche Erfahrungen sie hat. Und wie gesagt: Ich bin mir bewusst, dass das möglicherweise unfair von mir ist, da so skeptisch zu sein.
Ansonsten würd ich auch einfach sagen "passt schon", weil ich ja eigentlich nix über die Leute weiß.
Liebe Grüße, Hanna
PS: Pay könnte sich vorstellen zum Teil dabei zu sein, will abe an den Wochenenden auf jeden Fall zuhause sein, könnte also immer nur werktags und würde dann halt hin- und hertrampen, hätte aber Lust drauf
Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013, 00:16:07 schrieb Ju He:
ja, ich weiss jetzt auch nicht so recht was davon halten... aber also auf casting-auswahl-gedöns hab ich auf jeden fall gar kein bock! also von dem her find ich. die namen sagen mir jetzt spontan nix. was wir glaub ich mal als "bedingung hatten war zwei weiblich und zwei männlich sozialisierte menschen einzuladen. an dem würd ich gerne festhalten. ansonsten seh ich nicht wie wir da jetzt von hier aus das beurteilen wollen.
grüssle
Am 13.06.2013 um 00:09 schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
ich verstehe nicht, was wir entscheiden sollen. Es gibt 4 Namen und das wollten wir doch. Wangui schreibt, dass sie quasi nur den ersten Studenten ausgesucht hat und alles weitere in dessen Hände gelegt hat, davon können wir halten was wir wollen, wir werdens nicht ändern. Interessieren würde mich noch, ob die jetzt alle von einer Uni sind oder von verschiedenen, aber eigentlich ist das auch egal.
Soweit meine schnelle Meinung. Barbara
Am 12.06.2013 20:43, schrieb Sara Zavaree:
Hello again,
Thanks for the quick Response and the List. It's great that Things are moving forward! Very happy about that. Could you ask the participants to write each an email answering the following questions?
- Personal backround
- Political Background, i.e. Positions, experience in activism,
Projekts that have been accomplished and so on 3. Motivation to participate in the Exchange project 4. Phone Number 5. Passport available?
Send my greetings ti the team Cheers!
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 12.06.2013 um 18:47 schrieb Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com:
1.Zacharia Kinuthia Mugure
Date of birth:10/7/1988
Sex:Male
District of birth:Maragua
Place of Issue:Kigumo
2.Mercy Nyaguthii Maina
Date of birth:18/7/1993
District of birth:Nyeri
Division of birth:Mathira
3.Halake Guyo Rendilicha
Date of birth:00/00/1989 District of birth:Moyale
Place of issue:Central
4.Anzai Grace Kiti
Date of birth:14/2/1989 District of birth:Mombasa
Passport number:A1932871
Exp date:02/10/2022.
The civil society activism in Kenya have gone done recently due to expansive democratic space as well as the student activism.The state is mildly resistant on the activists courtesy of the ruthless human rights body....the media is the most indepedent in Africa having gone through a very remorseful epoch in history recently......i hope we will continue talking more over this matters.....cheers n good evening
Sent from my LG Mobile
Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net wrote: > Hi Kinuthia, > > sorry that I didn't pick up the phone yesterday, but the team didn't > meet yesterday, as initially planed, so there were no ne information > to share. > > Let me answer some of your questions: > > the costs on flight, accomodation and food will be all on us. What we > mean with low budget, is not to expect to much luxery ;) > > The programme so far is mostly concentrated on political activism of > the radical left in germany. But as soon the the team is complete and > the visa stuff is on its way we'll send you a detailed programme, so > that we also can include events and meetings that are of interest for > you. > > We would be very interested to hear about the following things from > you: - political activism and development of civil society in kenya - > means of protest and resistance > - student movement > - independent media > - ... > > of course we don't expect you to have a ready presentation on all > topics ;) We can talk about this more later. > > But most important of all: have you heard from Wangui recently? Could > you contact her as well. We really really need the names and dates of > the participants, otherwise we won't get the visas in time. > > Have you allready applied for your passport? You should do that > imidiatly and maybe also inquire how long it might take, and
if it ist
> possible to get a provisional one. > > So long, hope to hear from you soon, > Sara > > Am 10.06.2013 11:21, schrieb barbara@derknut.org: >> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Betreff: Re: First details about the exchange >> Datum: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:32:04 +0300 >> Von: Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com >> An: barbara@derknut.org >> >> Greetings Sara Hanna Johanna Kathy Jannik and Sara,i have read >> >> the details n here are the reactions: >>> what exactly do u expect wen u say workshops n presentations from >>> the Kenyan activists? We would also like to get some exposure about >>> Germans' social,religious and cultural orientations. About sharing >>> one room,relax we are comfortable. >>> Wil we meet the low cost of food or is it on u? >>> Dont trouble yourselves on pocket money,we wil be fine because we >>> want to to learn more instead. Who wil meet the cost of flight? >>> We would also like to share the political system n the growth of >>> democracy in Kenya as well as the religious,cultural and social >>> background in Kenya. >>> >> I hope i have communicated as required n that u wil get more than u >> >> need from this e mail.Cheers Sara and team >> Sent from my LG Mobile >> >> barbara@derknut.org wrote: >>> Dear Kinuthia, >>> >>> was great to finally get in touch with you. Here is the promised >>> Mail. First we'd like to present you the content of the project and >>> then we wish to discuss our divergent expectations towards the >>> organisational frame >>> >>> content: >>> objective: exchange of activists from kenya and germany. >>> >>> -introduction to the political situation and institutions in >>> germany, parlamentary and civil society >>> >>> -meeting with diverse forms of political activism, e.g. >>> indepent media >>> student movement >>> violence and judical repression against activsts and resistance to >>> that anti-nuclear-energy movement >>> protest against coal mining >>> >>> -workshops on different forms of skills for political actions, e.g. >>> communication and consenus >>> various forms of demonstrations >>> blockades (sitting blockades, material blockades...) >>> affinity groups >>> basic first aid for demonstrations >>> >>> -workshops and presentations from the kenyan activists >>> >>> Do you have any questions on that? Is there any more
content you are
>>> interested in or any more workshops that you would like to attend? >>> >>> >>> organisational frame: >>> we've been meeting some difficulties in getting the funds that are >>> sufficiant for such a project. But never the less we are very >>> motivated and we think it is very important to have such an >>> exchange so we came up with the idea to lower our expectians and >>> have a low budget plan. In detail this means the following things: >>> the team will sleep in one room, but with space enough for >>> everyone. We will try to keep the costs for food as low as possible >>> and our main base will be Berlin with vistit in one or two other >>> places, so there will be no tour. Probably we won't be able to >>> provide you with pocket money. Might there be any problems occuring >>> from this situation? >>> >>> >>> Please write a few lines on you're general expectations towards the >>> project. In addition to that we would like to know roughly
what kind
>>> of topics you coul give presentations or what kind of experiences >>> from Kenya would you like to share with us. >>> >>> By the way, it will be an interesting time for you to come, because >>> in September there is the general election in germany. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Barbara, Hanna, Johanna, Kathy, Jannik and Sara >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Actiwisdom mailing list >> Actiwisdom@lists.netzguerilla.net >> https://netzguerilla.net/mailman/listinfo/actiwisdom
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Sobald ich eine Rückmeldung hab
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 13.06.2013 um 09:20 schrieb banange@immerda.ch:
mein senf dazu wäre seine wiederholung, deswegen lass ich ihn weg. @sara: würdest du die telefonate auch übernehmen und dann einen kurzen eindruck über die liste schicken?
grüße aus der sonne, kathy
Zitat von Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net:
Hey,
Ich seh das ähnlich wie ihr, die sollten uns Namen schicken, und sie haben's gemacht. Wegen dem alter habe ich auch bedenken, andererseits sind StudentInnen nun mal eher jung, und vllt können sich ältere mit kids etc die zeit nicht freischaufeln?
Die Frage ist, wie wir jetzt weitermachen. Wir müssen ja Flüge buchen, Versicherung und bürgschaft klar machen. Wangui schrieb ja von einer "offiziellen" Kommunikation zwischen den teilnehmenden und Jugend in der Welt.
Am besten wäre es direkt nach Flügen zu suchen und schon mal ein schreiben von Jugend in der Welt aufzusetzen. Vllt fragen wir Dorothea, ob sie beim formulieren hilft?
Mein persönliche Wunsch wäre mit jedem einzelnen mal kurz über telefon oder Chat gesprochen zu haben, um mal zu schauen wie verbindlich die Teilnahme ist. ( bei kinuthia hab ich zb das Gefühl das er extrem motiviert ist).
Soweit, s.
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 13.06.2013 um 01:25 schrieb Hanna Poddig hanna@nirgendwo.info:
Hey,
Ich bin etwas unsicher, ob ich in meinem Kopf blöde Altersdiskriminierung mit mir herumtrage oder meine Gedanken berechtigt sind oder möglicherweise eine Mischung... Naja, ich schreib die Mail jetzt einfach um euch an dem in meinem Kopf teilhaben zu lassen.
Die Leute sind alle zwischen 20 und 25. Mir erscheint das sehr jung (zugegeben, ich werde alt). Ich finde das nicht schlimm, aber ich glaube das es Begegnung auf Augenhöhe erschweren könnte. Bei der 93 geborenen Person würde mich daher auch besonders interessieren, welche Erfahrungen sie hat. Und wie gesagt: Ich bin mir bewusst, dass das möglicherweise unfair von mir ist, da so skeptisch zu sein.
Ansonsten würd ich auch einfach sagen "passt schon", weil ich ja eigentlich nix über die Leute weiß.
Liebe Grüße, Hanna
PS: Pay könnte sich vorstellen zum Teil dabei zu sein, will abe an den Wochenenden auf jeden Fall zuhause sein, könnte also immer nur werktags und würde dann halt hin- und hertrampen, hätte aber Lust drauf
Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013, 00:16:07 schrieb Ju He:
ja, ich weiss jetzt auch nicht so recht was davon halten... aber also auf casting-auswahl-gedöns hab ich auf jeden fall gar kein bock! also von dem her find ich. die namen sagen mir jetzt spontan nix. was wir glaub ich mal als "bedingung hatten war zwei weiblich und zwei männlich sozialisierte menschen einzuladen. an dem würd ich gerne festhalten. ansonsten seh ich nicht wie wir da jetzt von hier aus das beurteilen wollen.
grüssle
Am 13.06.2013 um 00:09 schrieb barbara@derknut.org:
ich verstehe nicht, was wir entscheiden sollen. Es gibt 4 Namen und das wollten wir doch. Wangui schreibt, dass sie quasi nur den ersten Studenten ausgesucht hat und alles weitere in dessen Hände gelegt hat, davon können wir halten was wir wollen, wir werdens nicht ändern. Interessieren würde mich noch, ob die jetzt alle von einer Uni sind oder von verschiedenen, aber eigentlich ist das auch egal.
Soweit meine schnelle Meinung. Barbara
Am 12.06.2013 20:43, schrieb Sara Zavaree:
Hello again,
Thanks for the quick Response and the List. It's great that Things are moving forward! Very happy about that. Could you ask the participants to write each an email answering the following questions?
- Personal backround
- Political Background, i.e. Positions, experience in activism,
Projekts that have been accomplished and so on 3. Motivation to participate in the Exchange project 4. Phone Number 5. Passport available?
Send my greetings ti the team Cheers!
Sara Zavaree
Bonnerstr. 13 50677 Köln
0221-16820569 015776813912
Am 12.06.2013 um 18:47 schrieb Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com: > 1.Zacharia Kinuthia Mugure > > Date of birth:10/7/1988 > > Sex:Male > > District of birth:Maragua > > Place of Issue:Kigumo > > 2.Mercy Nyaguthii Maina > > Date of birth:18/7/1993 > > District of birth:Nyeri > > Division of birth:Mathira > > 3.Halake Guyo Rendilicha > > Date of birth:00/00/1989 > District of birth:Moyale > > Place of issue:Central > > 4.Anzai Grace Kiti > > Date of birth:14/2/1989 > District of birth:Mombasa > > Passport number:A1932871 > > Exp date:02/10/2022. > > The civil society activism in Kenya have gone done recently due to > expansive democratic space as well as the student activism.The state > is mildly resistant on the activists courtesy of the ruthless human > rights body....the media is the most indepedent in Africa having gone > through a very remorseful epoch in history recently......i hope we > will continue talking more over this matters.....cheers n good evening > > Sent from my LG Mobile > > Sara Zavaree sarazava@gmx.net wrote: >> Hi Kinuthia, >> >> sorry that I didn't pick up the phone yesterday, but the team didn't >> meet yesterday, as initially planed, so there were no ne information >> to share. >> >> Let me answer some of your questions: >> >> the costs on flight, accomodation and food will be all on us. What we >> mean with low budget, is not to expect to much luxery ;) >> >> The programme so far is mostly concentrated on political activism of >> the radical left in germany. But as soon the the team is complete and >> the visa stuff is on its way we'll send you a detailed programme, so >> that we also can include events and meetings that are of interest for >> you. >> >> We would be very interested to hear about the following things from >> you: - political activism and development of civil society in kenya - >> means of protest and resistance >> - student movement >> - independent media >> - ... >> >> of course we don't expect you to have a ready presentation on all >> topics ;) We can talk about this more later. >> >> But most important of all: have you heard from Wangui recently? Could >> you contact her as well. We really really need the names and dates of >> the participants, otherwise we won't get the visas in time. >> >> Have you allready applied for your passport? You should do that >> imidiatly and maybe also inquire how long it might take, and if it ist >> possible to get a provisional one. >> >> So long, hope to hear from you soon, >> Sara >> >> Am 10.06.2013 11:21, schrieb barbara@derknut.org: >>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >>> Betreff: Re: First details about the exchange >>> Datum: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:32:04 +0300 >>> Von: Zack kinzak.kinuthia@gmail.com >>> An: barbara@derknut.org >>> >>> Greetings Sara Hanna Johanna Kathy Jannik and Sara,i have read >>> >>> the details n here are the reactions: >>>> what exactly do u expect wen u say workshops n presentations from >>>> the Kenyan activists? We would also like to get some exposure about >>>> Germans' social,religious and cultural orientations. About sharing >>>> one room,relax we are comfortable. >>>> Wil we meet the low cost of food or is it on u? >>>> Dont trouble yourselves on pocket money,we wil be fine because we >>>> want to to learn more instead. Who wil meet the cost of flight? >>>> We would also like to share the political system n the growth of >>>> democracy in Kenya as well as the religious,cultural and social >>>> background in Kenya. >>>> >>> I hope i have communicated as required n that u wil get more than u >>> >>> need from this e mail.Cheers Sara and team >>> Sent from my LG Mobile >>> >>> barbara@derknut.org wrote: >>>> Dear Kinuthia, >>>> >>>> was great to finally get in touch with you. Here is the promised >>>> Mail. First we'd like to present you the content of the project and >>>> then we wish to discuss our divergent expectations towards the >>>> organisational frame >>>> >>>> content: >>>> objective: exchange of activists from kenya and germany. >>>> >>>> -introduction to the political situation and institutions in >>>> germany, parlamentary and civil society >>>> >>>> -meeting with diverse forms of political activism, e.g. >>>> indepent media >>>> student movement >>>> violence and judical repression against activsts and resistance to >>>> that anti-nuclear-energy movement >>>> protest against coal mining >>>> >>>> -workshops on different forms of skills for political actions, e.g. >>>> communication and consenus >>>> various forms of demonstrations >>>> blockades (sitting blockades, material blockades...) >>>> affinity groups >>>> basic first aid for demonstrations >>>> >>>> -workshops and presentations from the kenyan activists >>>> >>>> Do you have any questions on that? Is there any more content you are >>>> interested in or any more workshops that you would like to attend? >>>> >>>> >>>> organisational frame: >>>> we've been meeting some difficulties in getting the funds that are >>>> sufficiant for such a project. But never the less we are very >>>> motivated and we think it is very important to have such an >>>> exchange so we came up with the idea to lower our expectians and >>>> have a low budget plan. In detail this means the following things: >>>> the team will sleep in one room, but with space enough for >>>> everyone. We will try to keep the costs for food as low as possible >>>> and our main base will be Berlin with vistit in one or two other >>>> places, so there will be no tour. Probably we won't be able to >>>> provide you with pocket money. Might there be any problems occuring >>>> from this situation? >>>> >>>> >>>> Please write a few lines on you're general expectations towards the >>>> project. In addition to that we would like to know roughly what kind >>>> of topics you coul give presentations or what kind of experiences >>>> from Kenya would you like to share with us. >>>> >>>> By the way, it will be an interesting time for you to come, because >>>> in September there is the general election in germany. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Barbara, Hanna, Johanna, Kathy, Jannik and Sara >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Actiwisdom mailing list >>> Actiwisdom@lists.netzguerilla.net >>> https://netzguerilla.net/mailman/listinfo/actiwisdom
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